Sunday, 18 November 2012


In one sense Tory MP David Davis in Telegraph is right, Cameron promising an EU referendum of any kind is going to be treated with disdain by the British people:
Mr Davis told the Andrew Marr programme on BBC1: “Nobody believes it and why should they? The British public have been promised a referendum by the three major parties, and every single one has not delivered.
But this should not be mistaken for 'a major conflict with Cameron' - far from it; it's party positioning over a period of time to prepare for a possible referendum on an impeding EU treaty (and also a manifesto 'promise' in 2015) with a view to rigging it to remain in the EU. The clue is here:
“We’ve got to somehow dramatically change our relationship with Europe – not a little bit of a power here, and a little bit of a power there; we’ve got to bring back lots of powers, we’ve got to change the constitutional relationship.” 
And acutely here:
Any referendum, he said, would put “to the people two perfectly decent options: one is this is the real negotiating strategy, this is what you’re really going to have for the next decade or so; and this is the other option, which is to leave.”
This is no more than official Tory party strategy; to remain in the EU on the basis of a false promise of renegotiation. David Davis says quite openingly "follow our line of renegotiation or there's the 'dreaded leaving option'.

Cameron is a liar 'tis true, but he's not the only one...


  1. Is there an honest man or woman in Parliament, other than the cleaners?

  2. @Bill The 'cleaners' don't do a good job though...:-)

  3. The problem, as you are fully aware TBF is with our government (more accurately our bureaucracy)... It was after all our government which mendaciously insinuated the nation into the arrangement.

    Harrogate is the future...

    But this is where I disagree with Richard North and his loathing of the UKIP. A first step is to bring the government back here, and that is what UKIP is campaigning for and the moment is getting closer when a coalition with their involvement is becoming more likely.

    Bearing in mind that the foundation stone for the EU was laid in the 1920's, I don't see why the success of either the UKIP or the Harrogate campaigns should not be glacial...

    ...Or longer than you, me or Richard have got on this earth anyway.

  4. @right_writes Yes you're right, and would agree that the movement will probably be 'glacial'.

    Would say though regarding Richard and UKIP, I'm under the impression that his loathing is more due to one man than the party.